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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:55 pm 
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I think Edward doesnt want to push Jake. If Edward had his way the wolves wouldnt be invovled so Jake helping carry Bella to the camp site is a big deal to Edward.
So I see it as Edward not slaping someone in the face who is helping him. Bella is everything to Edward and the wolves are putting them selves out there to help keep her safe. Edward is too greatful for there help in this, to then turn around and do something so disrespectful as to flaunt Bella in Jake's face.

*shrug* That was my take on it anyways :?

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I think Edward doesnt want to push Jake. If Edward had his way the wolves wouldnt be invovled so Jake helping carry Bella to the camp site is a big deal to Edward.
So I see it as Edward not slaping someone in the face who is helping him. Bella is everything to Edward and the wolves are putting them selves out there to help keep her safe. Edward is too greatful for there help in this, to then turn around and do something so disrespectful as to flaunt Bella in Jake's face.

*shrug* That was my take on it anyways :?


That's a very good point, too...He is feeling pretty greatful for Jacob and the pack at this point in the story. Maybe it's a little bit of both your theory and "queenofmycastle's" theory???

It's kind of fun guessing...

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[quote="Erica.loves.edward"]

Plus when edward did kiss bella in front of jacob it almost seemed out ao character for him, and someone said that he was just trying to provoke jacob knowiong that he couldn't cross the treaty line to do anything about it. Edward is old fashioned and in his time displays of physical emotion were a NO NO

Edward shows his devotion so much more through other things that he does and i like it. Kissing is so intimate maybe he realized that he wanted to keep it that way and by gloating jacob he was taking away some of that intimacy..... just a thought[/quote

I totally agree with these thoughts. Edward is a gentleman through and through.

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I think Edward doesnt want to push Jake. If Edward had his way the wolves wouldnt be invovled so Jake helping carry Bella to the camp site is a big deal to Edward.
So I see it as Edward not slaping someone in the face who is helping him. Bella is everything to Edward and the wolves are putting them selves out there to help keep her safe. Edward is too greatful for there help in this, to then turn around and do something so disrespectful as to flaunt Bella in Jake's face.

*shrug* That was my take on it anyways :?


Exactly how I thought about it too.

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I found another place where Edward kisses Bella in front of Jacob. When Edward brings Jacob back after he overheard that they were getting married. When he goes off with Seth to talk to Sam, he kisses her before he leaves them to talk. At that point he isn't really confident in who Bella is going to chose. He says something like "whatever your decision."
At this point he knows there is a possiblity that Bella could choose Jacob. So now he chooses to kiss her???
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qjmom wrote:
I found another place where Edward kisses Bella in front of Jacob. When Edward brings Jacob back after he overheard that they were getting married. When he goes off with Seth to talk to Sam, he kisses her before he leaves them to talk. At that point he isn't really confident in who Bella is going to chose. He says something like "whatever your decision."
At this point he knows there is a possiblity that Bella could choose Jacob. So now he chooses to kiss her???
Very interesting!


. . . and maybe, since Edward was unsure at that moment who Bella would choose, he wanted to kiss her for what could possibly have been the last time. :cry: Just thinking about that possibility makes me sad.

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queenofmycastle wrote:
My thought on that is perhaps it was a test for Bella. Maybe Edward was waiting for Bella to kiss him first in front of Jacob....to make a show of affection toward Edward that would've put Edward one step ahead of Jacob in Bella's affections. Had she moved in to kiss Edward, he certainly would've kissed her back. Now I'm kinda ticked off at Bella for NOT kissing Edward! :x :D


Oh, yeah, I agree, that's a good one, it would have been better for Edward if Bella had kissed him in front of Jacob, what a great moment that would have been, especially for Edwards ego I'm guessing, and would have shown poor Jacob where Bellas alligience lies. :mrgreen:


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qjmom wrote:
I found another place where Edward kisses Bella in front of Jacob. When Edward brings Jacob back after he overheard that they were getting married. When he goes off with Seth to talk to Sam, he kisses her before he leaves them to talk. At that point he isn't really confident in who Bella is going to chose. He says something like "whatever your decision."
At this point he knows there is a possiblity that Bella could choose Jacob. So now he chooses to kiss her???
Very interesting!


This is an interesting point though - and also goes back to Edward taking the high road. He knew that Jacob was going to kiss Bella ("he would have kissed you anyway...now I don't have an excuse to break his face.").

Perhaps Edward was proving himself the gentleman, yet again, with his little kiss. This wasn't a 'I'm never going to see you again kiss', or a 'try and top this' kiss; I think this was more of an 'I trust you, make your own decision' kind of kiss or more likely, an 'I'm sorry I put you in this position for taunting him' kiss.

Maybe Edward was thinking that it would take more than just a kiss to steal her away... and yet the doubt is always lurking in him. And I think he did regret giving Jacob this last opportunity to steal Bella's heart.

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This wasn't a 'I'm never going to see you again kiss', or a 'try and top this' kiss; I think this was more of an 'I trust you, make your own decision' kind of kiss or more likely, an 'I'm sorry I put you in this position for taunting him' kiss.

Maybe Edward was thinking that it would take more than just a kiss to steal her away... and yet the doubt is always lurking in him. And I think he did regret giving Jacob this last opportunity to steal Bella's heart.


I agree. I think Edward might feel a little sheepish here since he is the one that brought on this confrontation between Bella and Jacob by purposely talking about their marriage, knowing that it would upset Jacob. Not very gentlemanly, but the guy can't be perfect all the time :lol: I think he kisses Bella that way because he doesn't know how she would react to a better kiss at that moment.


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qjmom wrote:
I found another place where Edward kisses Bella in front of Jacob. When Edward brings Jacob back after he overheard that they were getting married. When he goes off with Seth to talk to Sam, he kisses her before he leaves them to talk. At that point he isn't really confident in who Bella is going to chose. He says something like "whatever your decision."
At this point he knows there is a possiblity that Bella could choose Jacob. So now he chooses to kiss her???
Very interesting!


. . . and maybe, since Edward was unsure at that moment who Bella would choose, he wanted to kiss her for what could possibly have been the last time. :cry: Just thinking about that possibility makes me sad.


This is actually connected to my thinking about why he didn't kiss her before. Whenever Edward is planning on leaving Bella (Twilight before Phoenix and then definitely in New Moon and then I'm pretty sure even other places) Bella can tell that Edward is saying goodbye in his kisses. It freaks her out. He knows it freaks her out to be saying goodbye to him even for a couple of hours. Maybe he didn't want to freak her out at that particular time because he had to be a little stressed out himself at this point (handing her over to Jake) and knew that could transfer in his kiss. No need to kiss goodbye if goodbye isn't really part of the equation. Just another thought that may have fueled his actions...

And as for kissing her just before he leaves her to "talk" with Jacob: heartbreaking moment and many of you have already expressed very good reasons for the kiss and the type of kiss it was.

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 Post subject: Re: Why doesn't Edward kiss Bella?
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Since the boards were locked, and I was finishing my latest revamp of Eclipse, I looked through all the topics and didn't see this question. (please tell me where it is if I'm wrong because I really looked)

In Eclipse after Bella leaves her trail for the newborns, and Jacob shows up to take her "camping", why doesn't Edward kiss her before he sends her off with Jacob?
I mean Edward already knows how Jacob feels, and I think he also knows that Bella has feelings for Jake, so while I was reading this last time, I really wanted him to just sweep her up and plant a nice big one on her. Why doesn't he?
I have an idea, but wanted to think what all of you ladies might think.


I think that at this point, he's really not sure what Bella wants. Bella doesn't know what she really wants. It's not until she's on the way to have the offically "break up" so to speak talk w/ Jacob that she realizes her choice is Edward. I think Edward was being more respectful towards Bella here. If that makes sense.

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I'm pretty sure he doesnt really kiss her in front of many people actually. All their kisses seem to be when they're alone.

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What a great question!

Here's my theory... Our lovely Edward is overreacting again...

I think that Edward has only really kissed Bella once in front of Jacob in eclipse - and possibly ever. That was the first time he dropped her off at the treaty line in order for her to go hear the Quileute legends. Edward was trying to tease Jacob then, show him Bella was his... After the kiss, Edward's reaction became 'panicked', and I think he realized that he may be inciting Jacob's temper, and putting Bella in danger. (see page 237)

OR, maybe he was reading Jacob's thoughts after the kiss - something like 'two can play that game' and seeing Jacob's plans to kiss Bella... In any case, I think that Edward may have decided that such displays are not the best way to secure his claim on Bella. In his overreacting way, Edward then decided not to ever do it again.

Edward has always felt that he was above Jacob in many ways, and the thought that he had stooped to Jacob's level would disgust him. The foundation of Edward's manipulation of Bella is that he is the more mature one for Bella - in stark contrast to what he saw as Jacob's juvenile school boy flirtations.

That, combined with the looming battle, the fact that Edward knew Bella wasn't particularly happy with the plan, and that Edward knew the plan wouldn't work without Jacob's help; all led Edward to just depart the meadow without kissing Bella.

Edward would have thought of all these things and more...

I didn't find another case where Edward kisses Bella in front of Jacob after this - am I missing them?

Should he have kissed her? You bet! :mrgreen:


Very much agreed.......you pretty much took the point of me making a post unnecessary........ :lol: :lol:

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qjmom wrote:
Since the boards were locked, and I was finishing my latest revamp of Eclipse, I looked through all the topics and didn't see this question. (please tell me where it is if I'm wrong because I really looked)

In Eclipse after Bella leaves her trail for the newborns, and Jacob shows up to take her "camping", why doesn't Edward kiss her before he sends her off with Jacob?
I mean Edward already knows how Jacob feels, and I think he also knows that Bella has feelings for Jake, so while I was reading this last time, I really wanted him to just sweep her up and plant a nice big one on her. Why doesn't he?
I have an idea, but wanted to think what all of you ladies might think.


Here's another thought to add to everyone elses...

Perhaps another reason Edward didn't kiss Bella (because we all know how many different thoughts go through his mind with each decision) is somewhat of a favour to Jake's sense of smell. Edward knew that Bella would be right under Jacob's nose for their journey up the mountain. Knowing that Jake was essentially doing him a favour by bringing Bella up there, maybe Edward decided to be kind by not saturating Bella with his scent right before.

I agree with the other theories as well - I just also saw this as another way that Edward shows his gentlemanly side - even if it is to a "rival"!

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