For me, even if Alice had never shown up in NM, I wouldn't have been happy with a Jacob / Bella ending unless Bella went through a massive character change.

All throughout NM, she mentions things that imply that she's knowingly using Jacob as a stand-in for Edward. In some instances, like the scene before Alice appears, she makes it clear that even if she accepts Jacob's love, she will still hold a large chunk back that belongs to Edward.

That's something I find hard accept for Jacob. He deserves a love that is all about him and not have some ghost / vampire hanging around in the shadows.

So, yes. I am Pro Jacob and have never been, never will be Pro Jacob and Bella. And I'm howling proud of that fact. I can safely say that if this were real life, I'd be hounding Jacob all day, getting on his nerves like Leah did and telling him to give up on Bella and go after kctjohnson instead.

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For me, even if Alice had never shown up in NM, I wouldn't have been happy with a Jacob / Bella ending unless Bella went through a massive character change. All throughout NM, she mentions things that imply that she's knowingly using Jacob as a stand-in for Edward. In some instances, like the scene before Alice appears, she makes it clear that even if she accepts Jacob's love, she will still hold a large chunk back that belongs to Edward. That's something I find hard accept for Jacob. He deserves a love that is all about him and not have some ghost / vampire hanging around in the shadows. So, yes. I am Pro Jacob and have never been, never will be Pro Jacob and Bella. And I'm howling proud of that fact. I can safely say that if this were real life, I'd be hounding Jacob all day, getting on his nerves like Leah did and telling him to give up on Bella and go after kctjohnson instead.

*tears of joy* Oh snarky that's soooo sweet of you!!! (((hugs)))

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So, yes. I am Pro Jacob and have never been, never will be Pro Jacob and Bella. And I'm howling proud of that fact. I can safely say that if this were real life, I'd be hounding Jacob all day, getting on his nerves like Leah did and telling him to give up on Bella and go after kctjohnson instead. *tears of joy* Oh snarky that's soooo sweet of you!!! (((hugs)))

OH, REALLY?!

Well, fine! (sniff) if Jacob is going to ask Kat to go cliff-diving them I'm taking the motorcycles and I'll find out what Jared and Paul are doing!

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Jacob had become a part of me, and there was no changing that now.

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Quote: So, yes. I am Pro Jacob and have never been, never will be Pro Jacob and Bella. And I'm howling proud of that fact. I can safely say that if this were real life, I'd be hounding Jacob all day, getting on his nerves like Leah did and telling him to give up on Bella and go after kctjohnson instead. *tears of joy* Oh snarky that's soooo sweet of you!!! (((hugs))) OH, REALLY?! Well, fine! (sniff) if Jacob is going to ask Kat to go cliff-diving them I'm taking the motorcycles and I'll find out what Jared and Paul are doing!

LMAO!! You crack me up! I'm sure we can all equally share Jacob

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I would say I am #3 I am deffiantaly swizterland

I want Jacob to be happy.

I love, love, love your avi and sig!!!

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Let's see.... after reading NM, I just felt bad for Jake. Bella had gone off to "save" Edward from killing himself (this is something that annoyed me, but that's another story) so at that point, I saw Bella as pretty much hopeless in terms of her attachment to Edward. They're never going to part, even though I had wished she realized how indispensable Jacob is in her life. But she chose her path. It didn't take reading Eclipse that to know she was going to end up with Edward. That said, although I did not root for a Jacob/Bella relationship anymore, I can say with absolute certainty that I am Pro-Jacob. I think the definition of Pro-Jacob can be categorized in at least three ways: 1. Wanting Jacob and Bella to end up together or 2. Wanting all the happiness for Jacob. Heck, I hope Jacob ends up happier than Edward and Bella. or 3. I want all of them to be happy. I want Edward and Bella together, and I want Jacob to find the person who will love him as he deserves. Note that Type 3 is most likely a Switzerland, but I think we can count them as Pro-Jacob as well. I personally fall in the Type 2 category.

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I love, love, love your avi and sig!!!

Thanks!! It's like obsessed with photoshopping much? *LOL*

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It seems that some of you enjoy Native American culture. I was wondering if any of you are into the writing of Sherman Alexie, who wrote "The Lone Ranger and Tonto Fistfight in Heaven?" He's a Native American writer from the Coeur d'Alene Indian Reservation in Washington State. I started a thread for him in the books area:

http://twilightmomsforums.freeforums.org/sherman-alexie-native-american-writer-t10169.html

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It seems that some of you enjoy Native American culture. I was wondering if any of you are into the writing of Sherman Alexie, who wrote "The Lone Ranger and Tonto Fistfight in Heaven?" He's a Native American writer from the Coeur d'Alene Indian Reservation in Washington State. I started a thread for him in the books area: http://twilightmomsforums.freeforums.org/sherman-alexie-native-american-writer-t10169.html

I'm so there! ... but the link doesn't work....

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Quote: He'd carry me for my own good even if I thought I would want to walk across a frozen pond or high mountain ridge instead; and yet, he'd be much more like my peer, my friend, who'd walk beside me. He'd let me take care of him when he went too close to his own limitations and never be ungrateful or inconsiderate. Yup.....and he'd never buy an expensive, high powered motorcycle that I'd never have a chance of keeping up with and then say he wants to ride with me!

I nearly spit out my coffee when I read this and started looking around for the hidden cameras. Because this is SO MUCH like MY OWN life right now!

(remember that Bella salvaged those vintage motorcycles too) Jacob's responsibility was making sure she had protective gear.

But my b/f has just bought himself a 3 y.o. high-cc cruiser and bought me a motorcycle that was built after I was barely out of high school. Since it's my first ride and I'm still learning, he is required by the rules of my permit to be with me on all street rides. His bike would be many multiples more powerful than my own, and he rides behind me and keeps the idiots from tailgating me. It's scary to learn like that; but how else?

Here's me practicing in an empty parking lot a few weeks ago:

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Jacob had become a part of me, and there was no changing that now.

here i was thinking i was just going to finally pop over to say a quick I LOVE JACOB and that was all....but after many pages of note taking on ya'lls thoughts--i'm going to have to reread the books--again--and take MORE notes to come back and join the chat! the first 2 times through i'd had some jacob questions-but none of my edwardian friends were game! now i've got the perfect place & people to run things by! ya'll are word wizards! do we get credits for this? i'll be back soon! oh, and a sort of related sherman alexie tangent--how i pictured jacob when i first read through was adam beach from smoke signals! bluestem--LOVE the bike!

Careful, bluestem, I hear those motorcycle jackets make you look hot. And we all know Jacob likes hot.

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oh, and a sort of related sherman alexie tangent--how i pictured jacob when i first read through was adam beach from smoke signals! bluestem--LOVE the bike!

Oh Zanna I love Adam Beach. Talk about huggability factor! He's been good in everything I've seen him in.

(I believe that by the time the Chicago get-together for the concert takes place, I will have my Class M license and will be able to premiere my "other" jacket...along with riding the bike to the event...and I cannot wait!)

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Jacob had become a part of me, and there was no changing that now.

Bluestem wrote:

Quote: oh, and a sort of related sherman alexie tangent--how i pictured jacob when i first read through was adam beach from smoke signals! bluestem--LOVE the bike! Oh Zanna I love Adam Beach. Talk about huggability factor! He's been good in everything I've seen him in. (I believe that by the time the Chicago get-together for the concert takes place, I will have my Class M license and will be able to premiere my "other" jacket...along with riding the bike to the event...and I cannot wait!)

Ahhh Adam Beach (yes I belive he has a high Swoon Quotient) I cried watching "Now and Forever" (hubby thought it was silly to cry of course).

Awesome bike! I have a weird fear of bikes. I'm okay when I'm riding with someone who's ecperienced, but I can never get on one alone

Picturing Jacob on a bike.... I think my heart can race faster than the bike itself will ever go

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Jacob on a motorcycle equals true happiness. I can just invision him riding up to me, asking me if I need a lift. I guess I'll be looking at all the riders that way now. Thanks girls!

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"I hate you, Jacob Black."
"That's good. Hate is a passionate emotion."