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Tamia
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I found this ...interesting...
Question 4: The importance of the Frost poem "Fire and Ice" that appears in Eclipse.
Stephenie Meyer: That's one of those poems that the first time I read it I kind of stopped, and I love poetry, but you get exposed as an English major to a lot that I consider to be crap. But that was one that I stopped, re-read immediately. And I didn't have to open a book up to use it. I hadn't opened a Frost book in years, but I knew it by heart. And for me it's this idea that the kind of struggle between fire and ice, and yet in the end aren't they both the same? Because they both kind of destroy. And I really liked the idea that if I knew that there was going to be a struggle between fire and ice in my novel and I wanted to start with that.
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InLustWithEC
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Just found this thread today. Another thought....
Fire - pits of hell and the devil.
Ice - cooling hands of God calm and serene Heaven.
Who's going to win in the end? Good or evil?
And who is the good? And who is the evil?
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ceflathrop
Onyx Vampire
Joined: 04 Aug 2008
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Location: Burke, VA (no vampires here. . .unfortunately)
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Here is a quick analysis of the poem:
In his poem “Fire and Ice” Robert frost compares and contrasts the two destructive forces: fire and ice. In the first two lines of the poem he presents two options for the end of the world: an end by fire or by ice. He takes the position of fire in the next two lines and relates fire to desire. This comparison suggests that Frost views desire as something that consumes and destroys. Desire does indeed have a way of consuming those it infects. However, in the next stanza Frost makes the case for the destructive force of ice. He compares ice to hate. This comparison relates to the reader a view of hate as something that causes people to be rigid, unmoving and cold. Also, ice has a tendency to encompass things and cause them to crack and break. The last line of Frost’s poem asserts that the two destructive forces are equally great. Fire, or passion, consumes and destroys quickly, leaving ashes in its wake. Ice, or hatred, destroys more slowly. It causes object to become so immovable that they crack from the pressure created, leaving split fragments that once were whole.
From this it doesn't seem to be about Jacob vs. Edward as Fire vs. Ice, but more how desire and hate can destory things (love, friendships, and relationships). This actually sheds a lot of light on what SM was thinking when she wrote the book. Glad someone brought this up  |
Wow. . .at first I was like everyone else and just thought that Jacob was fire and Edward was ice, but then the poem always threw me off because it says "I hold with those who favor fire. . ." and we know she doesn't pick Jacob at the end. Thanks for helping me understand, that has been bothering me since I first read it!
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