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Not to sound mean..but..I HOPE SO...sometimes I think Bella needs a dose of her own medicine!!!


Well, I just have this feeling the she is going to meet the Denali vampires, and Tayna is going to throw kerosene on the fire when she realizes that Bella is jealous.



Very interesting I could see if Tanya were to show up then there would be some Jealousy because I think I could see Tanya trying one last time or just get under Bella’s skin especially if she does not agree with Edward being with a human.

Cordelia very nice you brought up some really good points.
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Thanks, Amie. :)

I agree, I'd like Bella to get a taste of her own medicine too. Nothing bad - just a little flirting that drives her nuts, lol. I felt so bad for Edward all through Eclipse - and it seemed like he was trying to edit whatever happened with Tanya. I bet that when she expressed "interest" in him it was quite overt and he just didn't want to upset Bella, but I can definitely see Tanya making one last attempt with Edward - especially since he'll be marrying a human.

Actually...I have a theory about Tanya. I posted it elsewhere but I'll put it here too:

Since Tanya and her sisters were the inspiration for the succubus myth (in SM's world) maybe one or more of them had special powers to attract men - other than their beauty.

I think we'll find out that Tanya's special gift is to place false images into a person's mind. She'll go to Edward, make him think he's seeing Bella and kiss him. Bella will walk in, see him kissing Tanya and be jealous. Edward will tell her he thought Tanya was Bella. Everything will be OK. Maybe Tanya will also do this with Charlie - pretending to be Sue. Or pretend to be Bella and go after Jacob to get secrets about the wolf pack and seek revenge against them for killing Laurent. Bella will get to save the day for a change since she's the only one who can close off her mind from others' powers.

It would cause a lot of misunderstanding but wouldn't require anyone to knowingly cheat on anyone else - which would also tie in the Midsummer Night's Dream aspect.

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I wouldnt be a bit surprised either if Tanya had a little "SAY" in something conniving before the wedding or even JUST at all in BD, but I don't think Edward would think she's Bella and kiss her, unless she has a way to change her scent.

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I bet Bella will be able to handle Tanya in the end though. She may get her knickers in a twist at first, but my money is on Bella.




Brahaha. :lol: Great description!

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I wouldnt be a bit surprised either if Tanya had a little "SAY" in something conniving before the wedding or even JUST at all in BD, but I don't think Edward would think she's Bella and kiss her, unless she has a way to change her scent.


D'oh! :roll: I forgot about the scent issue. Good point!

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Cordelia wrote:
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I wouldnt be a bit surprised either if Tanya had a little "SAY" in something conniving before the wedding or even JUST at all in BD, but I don't think Edward would think she's Bella and kiss her, unless she has a way to change her scent.


D'oh! :roll: I forgot about the scent issue. Good point!


I know! They have WAY TOO many strong scences! But i still like the idea dealing w/Tanya.

Might I add, that I like to look at your SIG, because I get to see Paul Walker....mmm.

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I wouldnt be a bit surprised either if Tanya had a little "SAY" in something conniving before the wedding or even JUST at all in BD, but I don't think Edward would think she's Bella and kiss her, unless she has a way to change her scent.


D'oh! :roll: I forgot about the scent issue. Good point!


I know! They have WAY TOO many strong scences! But i still like the idea dealing w/Tanya.

Might I add, that I like to look at your SIG, because I get to see Paul Walker....mmm.


haha, thanks! Yeah, he's not exactly hard on the eyes, is he? ;)

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W-O-W, you all have blown me away once again with your writing, explanations, clarifications and much, much more. I love reading everything everyone had to say and I must say it gave me alot to think about. Thanks everyone.

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Jazmai said:Stephenie even said that if Bella would have known that she was in love with Jacob, she WOULD NOT have pursued "him" (his friendship in Eclipse) because she knows she loves Edward more and wouldn't have hurt Edward (or Jacob) like that. That's why she's SO UPSET with herself and what she's done. She really had NO IDEA. I've been able to "forgive" bella now, she didn't do anything wrong.
What do you guys think?
I think I vote with SM here. I am one of the few who will argue that Bella isn't really 'in love' romantically with Jacob. I know Bella says she is and SM says she is, but I refuse to believe it. :wink:

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There are so many different kinds and levels of love...I think she loves Jacob, but NOT LIKE SHE LOVES EDWARD!!!

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I was never upset with Bella for falling for Jake. As far as she knew, Edward was never coming back and it was over. Eventually, she would need to move on. Even though Edward loves Bella very deeply, he thought he was committing the ultimate act of love - letting her go in order to protect her. As others have said, I also got the impression he would have been happy if Bella had fallen for someone else. If he couldn't be with her, the next best thing would be for her to be safe and find happiness again with someone else.


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Stephenie explained it well. I was never mad at Bella. I guess, because I knew since NM she was in love with him. Wasn't her fault, wasn't Jacobs. They were friends who fell in love. I did ache for Edward, but he knew Bella loved Jacob. He pushed her into his arms, so now he has to deal with the consequences.


It's hard to be mad at raw emotion like that... she was so broken from Edward's leaving, that she just fell in love with the person who protected her and made her smile again. It's hard to be mad because it's so natural... it's a natural reaction to have strong, intense feelings for someone that helps you heal from something so devastating.

It just happens sometimes... and it's no one's fault. It's just life.

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It just happens sometimes... and it's no one's fault. It's just life.


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I have to admit, I got mad at Bella - not in NM, I could understand her very well then. She tried to survive without Edward and Jacob helped her through her depression. But he could not heal her and she knew that. She felt instantly healed when she embraced Edward in Volterra. He is her true love.

At least, I believed that as I finished NM. In Eclipse, I could follow her when she tried to keep her friendship with Jacob - Yes, I knew it was a little bit more than just friendship, based on her experiences in NM. I was with her, when she sneaked out to La Push in the beginning. But later in the book, I lost her more and more and felt very sad about it. For me she was out of character in the end. A spoiled princess, knowing that Edward would do anything for her and counting on that! This was not the Bella we came to know in the previous books. I was disappointed with SM , I have to admit. To me there was too much drama in the good-bye scene with Jacob. I simply couldn't believe it was Bella speaking, when she said to Jake, she maybe would feel jealous if he imprinted, or his last words to him "Love you, Jake"(!?) And after that,crying in Edward's arms and longing for Jake's!

I don't know if I put it in the right words but I did understand her emotional confusion but SM went too far with it.
I felt betrayed after Eclipse, my personal Twilightfeeling was gone and I was worried, if there could be a happy ending for B&E.

Did that make sense? I wanted to point out,that the Bella in NM was completely different from the Bell in Eclipse (for me)


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I don't know if I put it in the right words but I did understand her emotional confusion but SM went too far with it.
I felt betrayed after Eclipse, my personal Twilightfeeling was gone and I was worried, if there could be a happy ending for B&E.

Did that make sense? I wanted to point out,that the Bella in NM was completely different from the Bell in Eclipse (for me)


I believe I understand what you're saying, and I think a lot of people felt that way. They were very upset with Bella and didn't like that she could become who she became during EC.

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A spoiled princess, knowing that Edward would do anything for her and counting on that!

it reminded me of something that may have been going on with her. She was too sure of him, taking him for granted, maybe even consciously punishing him, and at the same time testing him to find out exactly how sure of him she could be.

I think a lot of girls do this without even being aware of it. Once a girl (not all girls, but enough that I've noticed it more than a few times) has captured the guy and is pretty sure of him, there's a stage she goes through where she tests the boundaries of how far he'll go for her.

There's a lot more going on with Bella than just this, but I suspect a little bit of it was exactly this.

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I was upset with Bella at first too. You know, how could she do that to Edwardor Jacob?! But, I think your right, that she didn't recognize that she was in love with Jacob, it was different than what she had with Edward. Plus, it was overshadowed by Edward as well, it's hard to concentrate on anyone else when he is around, well even when he is not around.

I forgave her too and learned to understand her!

My husband and son though still remain upset at her!

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