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I was thinking about this one overnight. Ofcourse I think we are going to see a violent Edward, thats already indicated in the first chapter. His plans for the students deaths in the classroom, how he goes about it. The incident with Mrs. Cope and how his hand suspended in air, he could easily reach across and "slam" her head against the desk and kill her. How he had made the decision the let Bella live for just an hour or too more. The condemed girl. Steph let Rob see the manuscript for MS that he thought was 3/4 done to help him understand Edward and said he thought of him as not that great guy if you really knew his thoughts. Even when we get into confessions and their more intimate relationship, we will see a more violent side to our dear Edward throughout the whole book, it's to be expected, he's a vampire.

Another point that will be interesting. When he keeps insisiting Bella tell Charlie where she will be and how he must have still be teatering on to kill or not to kill her.


It wasn't until I had read all three of the books before I read the first chapter of MS. I remember being shocked by the violence of Edward. I believe we will be even more shocked by the rest of the book. This reminds of the time when Edward said to Bella, "Yet here you are." Even Edward is surprised that Bella is still alive, that he had not killed her yet. I'm always shocked by his will-power. I can't wait to read about just how strong it is in MS.

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Heres another incident I think we will be surprised about. I think that at the lunch table (the day he skiped class) he was trying to find out from Bella, what she really knew, if anything, about him. If the opportunity came where she would skip class, he could lure her away and do (whatever) to her.
Now in connection with Midnight Sun- when he takes her home from the Blood Type incident, (because she chose to go to class), he DOES finally have her alone in the confines of the car. So what does he do? He wants to kill her but not kill her.
I think his killer instinct is halted when Bella notices Clair De Lune and Bella observes about Edward: "It's one of my favories too. He stared out in the rain, lost in thought.

I think in his mind he is telling himself what Alice had told Jasper in Midnight Sun. That it is easier to resist the temptation to kill a human if you know a little bit about their family.

I think THAT is what Edward was doing when he surprised Bella with so many personaly questions. He spent a lot of time trying to get to know her during that car ride home. I think this was his way of avoiding the desire to kill her. But we won't know that till Midnight Sun.

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Heres another incident I think we will be surprised about. I think that at the lunch table (the day he skiped class) he was trying to find out from Bella, what she really knew, if anything, about him. If the opportunity came where she would skip class, he could lure her away and do (whatever) to her.
Now in connection with Midnight Sun- when he takes her home from the Blood Type incident, (because she chose to go to class), he DOES finally have her alone in the confines of the car. So what does he do? He wants to kill her but not kill her.
I think his killer instinct is halted when Bella notices Clair De Lune and Bella observes about Edward: "It's one of my favories too. He stared out in the rain, lost in thought.

I think in his mind he is telling himself what Alice had told Jasper in Midnight Sun. That it is easier to resist the temptation to kill a human if you know a little bit about their family.

I think THAT is what Edward was doing when he surprised Bella with so many personaly questions. He spent a lot of time trying to get to know her during that car ride home. I think this was his way of avoiding the desire to kill her. But we won't know that till Midnight Sun.


I never thought about him trying to lure her anywhere after that first day but you could be right. Do you think he would try to lure her somewhere to kill her AFTER he made such a big display to save her from the van?

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I was just checking my Midnight Sun links and saw this response. I live for MS too! As for the question, I remember him saying that he had not made a final decision even until the meadow. And he was tryiing to convince her even before that to make sure Charlie knew where she was at for incentive to bring her home. He spent so much time getting to know her, it was love and wanting to know her but maybe also, because of what Alice had said to Jasper. If you know something about them, its not so bad. I was wondering about the meadow. What made him change his mind in the meadow? I don't know. Her not being afraid of him? It always made me wonder about it. Thanks for talking MS with me!

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I was just checking my Midnight Sun links and saw this response. I live for MS too! As for the question, I remember him saying that he had not made a final decision even until the meadow. And he was tryiing to convince her even before that to make sure Charlie knew where she was at for incentive to bring her home. He spent so much time getting to know her, it was love and wanting to know her but maybe also, because of what Alice had said to Jasper. If you know something about them, its not so bad. I was wondering about the meadow. What made him change his mind in the meadow? I don't know. Her not being afraid of him? It always made me wonder about it. Thanks for talking MS with me!


I think what made him change his mind in the meadow was seeing her so afraid of him. I think it shocked him into swearing that he wouldn't hurt her just to see her smile again. BTW I love talking MS with anyone who will listen. :mrgreen:

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I was just checking my Midnight Sun links and saw this response. I live for MS too! As for the question, I remember him saying that he had not made a final decision even until the meadow. And he was tryiing to convince her even before that to make sure Charlie knew where she was at for incentive to bring her home. He spent so much time getting to know her, it was love and wanting to know her but maybe also, because of what Alice had said to Jasper. If you know something about them, its not so bad. I was wondering about the meadow. What made him change his mind in the meadow? I don't know. Her not being afraid of him? It always made me wonder about it. Thanks for talking MS with me!


I think what made him change his mind in the meadow was seeing her so afraid of him. I think it shocked him into swearing that he wouldn't hurt her just to see her smile again. BTW I love talking MS with anyone who will listen. :mrgreen:



Thats right she did say she sat there like a bird of prey. She sais she was afraid of him but yet he had never been so beautiful. *sigh* :roll:

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I cant wait to here his point of view... It will be so interesting to know his thoughts in the meadow, really why he left her in NM, how he felt with everthing that happened... I just cant wait...

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bellandedwardslullaby wrote:
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I was just checking my Midnight Sun links and saw this response. I live for MS too! As for the question, I remember him saying that he had not made a final decision even until the meadow. And he was tryiing to convince her even before that to make sure Charlie knew where she was at for incentive to bring her home. He spent so much time getting to know her, it was love and wanting to know her but maybe also, because of what Alice had said to Jasper. If you know something about them, its not so bad. I was wondering about the meadow. What made him change his mind in the meadow? I don't know. Her not being afraid of him? It always made me wonder about it. Thanks for talking MS with me!


I think what made him change his mind in the meadow was seeing her so afraid of him. I think it shocked him into swearing that he wouldn't hurt her just to see her smile again. BTW I love talking MS with anyone who will listen. :mrgreen:



Thats right she did say she sat there like a bird of prey. She sais she was afraid of him but yet he had never been so beautiful. *sigh* :roll:


Yep, he didn't like seeing her afraid, especially of him. It went a long way into changing/making up his mind.

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I think when we get the chance to read MS we will truely be amazed at how edwards peronal take on the situation is more complex and more understandable than it was in bellas point of view

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Of course we have no idea, but I think Edward never got as close as he got to killing Bella again after that first Biology class. It will be so great to read what he is thinking. . . .that first time he gets soooooo close. I mean when I first read that chapter of MS, I had read the three books and I still thought to myself, "Is he going to kill her?!?" I really don't think he gets that close again. Maybe in the meadow scene but even then he is the one to back away and calm himself down. Won't that be awesome to read from his POV?

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Rob has read the first 12 chapters of Midnight Sun so that he can better understand Edward and hopefully portray him as he should be...well anyway...he said that Edward wants to kill Bella ALL THE TIME... I think what Edward suffers is even worse than is let on in the books, maybe we don't see that side because Edward is doing everything he can to hide this fact from Bella.

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Rob has read the first 12 chapters of Midnight Sun so that he can better understand Edward and hopefully portray him as he should be...well anyway...he said that Edward wants to kill Bella ALL THE TIME... I think what Edward suffers is even worse than is let on in the books, maybe we don't see that side because Edward is doing everything he can to hide this fact from Bella.


I don't really think so. I know he would like to but I don't see him being that tempted all the time. Of course, he is Edward and Edward=Awesome so many so.

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Edward would be determined to make it look easy, regardless of how difficult it was. He doesn't want to repeatedly terrorize Bella once he makes up his mind that he is going to be with her, and keeping his appetites hidden to the extent he does also helps him to control them better. He is someone who analyzes things infinitesimally, but he isn't accustomed to revealing or discussing them except with, say, Alice or Carlisle, so Bella in Twilight is largely unaware of many, many things I feel will be revealed in MS.

On Thursday SM said she was particularly happy about a certain car chase scene about which Bella is entirely clueless. That sounds pretty intriguing! It also makes me want to know if Edward ever did go put the fear of God into those men at Port Angeles. I know he didn't drink their blood or we would have seen his eyes turn red, but do you think he could have come close to killing them, or thrashing them, or scaring the bejeepers out of them?

Incidentally, have you ever noticed that Stephenie Meyer's initials are an inversion of Midnight Sun's? Dah-dah-daaaaah. That proves it--MS will be SM's magnum opus, the book she was born to write.

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Edward would be determined to make it look easy, regardless of how difficult it was. He doesn't want to repeatedly terrorize Bella once he makes up his mind that he is going to be with her, and keeping his appetites hidden to the extent he does also helps him to control them better. He is someone who analyzes things infinitesimally, but he isn't accustomed to revealing or discussing them except with, say, Alice or Carlisle, so Bella in Twilight is largely unaware of many, many things I feel will be revealed in MS.

On Thursday SM said she was particularly happy about a certain car chase scene about which Bella is entirely clueless. That sounds pretty intriguing! It also makes me want to know if Edward ever did go put the fear of God into those men at Port Angeles. I know he didn't drink their blood or we would have seen his eyes turn red, but do you think he could have come close to killing them, or thrashing them, or scaring the bejeepers out of them?

Incidentally, have you ever noticed that Stephenie Meyer's initials are an inversion of Midnight Sun's? Dah-dah-daaaaah. That proves it--MS will be SM's magnum opus, the book she was born to write.


I was wondering about SM mentioning that car chase too. My first thought was, Edward is probably driving but then I thought of Emmett and thought wouldn't it be cool to have Emmett driving? Do you think is was with the police or with each other (like a race?)

But I like your idea Shimmer about Edward going to scare the PA bad boys. Anyway, there is no doubt in my mind that MS will be the best book and I'm thankful to SM for all the writing she has, does and will continue to do just for me. . .and the other millions of fans that she has.

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Joanne Maria wrote:
Rob has read the first 12 chapters of Midnight Sun so that he can better understand Edward and hopefully portray him as he should be...well anyway...he said that Edward wants to kill Bella ALL THE TIME... I think what Edward suffers is even worse than is let on in the books, maybe we don't see that side because Edward is doing everything he can to hide this fact from Bella.


I don't really think so. I know he would like to but I don't see him being that tempted all the time. Of course, he is Edward and Edward=Awesome so many so.


I think he is tortured all the time. He mentions in BD at the end, when Bella talks about the burn in the back of her throat at the smell of humans and he says - Try kissing that! By Eclipse, he's gotten over it...but I think in Twilight, it is a constant struggle for him not to kill Bella. Guess we'll all find out when MS comes out!

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