I know this may be stupid but besides the fact that it was Edward's lover was there any specific reason that Edward had to de-venomize Bella everyone seemed to push him to do it. Why not Carilse any reason or was it just that everyone was preoccupied.

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Good question! I think Carlisle was simply too busy treating Bella's injuries and Alice was busy assisting. Everyone else was occupied dismembering and burning James's body. IMHO, Edward needed to do it. It was significant for him because he was able to prove to himself that his love for Bella was stronger than his thirst for her blood. It was, at that moment, that he realized the strength of his commitment and the depth of his love for her. He proved to himself that he was no longer a threat to Bella's life.

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queenofmycastle wrote:

Good question! I think Carlisle was simply too busy treating Bella's injuries and Alice was busy assisting. Everyone else was occupied dismembering and burning James's body. IMHO, Edward needed to do it. It was significant for him because he was able to prove to himself that his love for Bella was stronger than his thirst for her blood. It was, at that moment, that he realized the strength of his commitment and the depth of his love for her. He proved to himself that he was no longer a threat to Bella's life.

I agree, Queenie, as far as character development goes, Edward needed this psychologically. Carlisle and Alice are supporting him.
But as plot goes, the only 2 who could have physically had a chance at succeeding are Edward and Carlisle. The rest simply don't have the discipline or motivation. Carlisle is busy doctoring Bella and trying to stop her from bleeding to death.

For me the real question is why not just let her change already? I don't think any of them are ready for that to take place.

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lauralee wrote:

I agree, Queenie, as far as character development goes, Edward needed this psychologically. Carlisle and Alice are supporting him. But as plot goes, the only 2 who could have physically had a chance at succeeding are Edward and Carlisle. The rest simply don't have the discipline or motivation. Carlisle is busy doctoring Bella and trying to stop her from bleeding to death.

I second that. Only Carlisle and Edward had anough control to be able to suck out the venom without killing Bella. Even in Eclipse, Alice was hesitant about turning Bella herself because she was uncertain about her own ability to control herself. Jasper was definitely a no-go - not after he practically pounced on Bella when she bled in an earlier scene (in Twilight).

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I agree with Queenie. It helped Edward to know he could control himself and also gave Bella a choice as to her becoming a vampire and whose venom it is. Of course it should be Edwards.

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I also agree Queen. Remember edward had doubts if he could do it or not. Carlisle told him to do it now if he was going to do it before it was to late. Carlisle had to stop the bleeding from her head, because he was going to be taking blood from her hand.

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queenofmycastle wrote:

Good question! I think Carlisle was simply too busy treating Bella's injuries and Alice was busy assisting. Everyone else was occupied dismembering and burning James's body. IMHO, Edward needed to do it. It was significant for him because he was able to prove to himself that his love for Bella was stronger than his thirst for her blood. It was, at that moment, that he realized the strength of his commitment and the depth of his love for her. He proved to himself that he was no longer a threat to Bella's life.

Once again queenofmycastle, we are of like minds.

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YES! This is the perfect place for my question after my revamping for July:

Why does Alice say, "Edward, you have to do it." (I don't have my book--lent to a friend) This is right before Carlisle tells him there is still a chance, he can suck out the venom. Is it because

1) she can see what Carlisle is about to say and what Edward "has to do", meaning suck out the venom?

2) She means Edward has to let Bella change into a vampire, hence all the foreshadowing in the book about Alice seeing Bella as a vamp.

Am I making sense? I just thought it was kind of a random interjection from Alice and I didn't know what she meant by that.

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Forcelle wrote:

YES! This is the perfect place for my question after my revamping for July: Why does Alice say, "Edward, you have to do it." (I don't have my book--lent to a friend) This is right before Carlisle tells him there is still a chance, he can suck out the venom. Is it because 1) she can see what Carlisle is about to say and what Edward "has to do", meaning suck out the venom? 2) She means Edward has to let Bella change into a vampire, hence all the foreshadowing in the book about Alice seeing Bella as a vamp. Am I making sense? I just thought it was kind of a random interjection from Alice and I didn't know what she meant by that.

Very good points! I think a third interpretation of Alice's statement could also be: "Edward, you have to do it."

3.) Edward has to be the one to change Bella, not James. Perhaps she meant that, in order for Edward to be able to accept Bella's changing as something other than a horrific thing, Edward needs the time to accept the idea of it and be the one to make Bella immortal.

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I think since Carlisle had to stop the bleeding on her head and someone had to immobilize Bella's leg, the only option was Edward. However, I think there was double meaning there. Edward had to do it to show he loved Bella more than her blood called him. He was strong enough to not kill her. Also, he didn't want her to become a vampire. He didn't want her to lose her soul and he wanted her to remain human.

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I think since Carlisle had to stop the bleeding on her head and someone had to immobilize Bella's leg, the only option was Edward. However, I think there was double meaning there. Edward had to do it to show he loved Bella more than her blood called him. He was strong enough to not kill her. Also, he didn't want her to become a vampire. He didn't want her to lose her soul and he wanted her to remain human.

SM is the queen of the double entendre.

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Well I agree with whats been said before!
Im glad Edward had to be the one too suck out James venom..
Now Edward knows how strong his will is and that he can control himself with Bella and that He isnt a threat to her as much as he thought he was...
I think that Alice was afraid that she wasnt able to do the job and she also knew Edward needed to be the one!Even though Edward had been to medical school He wasnt in any shape to try and tend Bellas wounds unless he had too... Im sure if he had to he may have been able to concentrate on what needed to be done...Maybe...And Carlise was giving him the choice to allow Bella to be changed or try and stop it from happening to give Edward and Bella the choice later on.
Remember Bellas Birthday party when she cut her finger opening o0ne of her gifts? Edward did very well then too protecting Bella from Jasper.
all of this came in handy when in EC Bella fell and cut her hand...Edward had no problem taking care of the cut for her.

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Forcelle wrote:

YES! This is the perfect place for my question after my revamping for July: Why does Alice say, "Edward, you have to do it." (I don't have my book--lent to a friend) This is right before Carlisle tells him there is still a chance, he can suck out the venom. Is it because 1) she can see what Carlisle is about to say and what Edward "has to do", meaning suck out the venom? 2) She means Edward has to let Bella change into a vampire, hence all the foreshadowing in the book about Alice seeing Bella as a vamp. Am I making sense? I just thought it was kind of a random interjection from Alice and I didn't know what she meant by that.

I think she was talking about Edward biting her more to sure she becomes a vampire. It would be even more excruciating of a change if she had only one bite in her hand to change her. And the idea of sucking out the venom seemed like something totally new to all of them, Alice and Edward didn't seem to know if it would really work. Plus Alice had seen Bella as a vampire, this was just the time she thought that the change had to happen.

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Forcelle wrote:

YES! This is the perfect place for my question after my revamping for July: Why does Alice say, "Edward, you have to do it." (I don't have my book--lent to a friend) This is right before Carlisle tells him there is still a chance, he can suck out the venom. Is it because 1) she can see what Carlisle is about to say and what Edward "has to do", meaning suck out the venom? 2) She means Edward has to let Bella change into a vampire, hence all the foreshadowing in the book about Alice seeing Bella as a vamp. Am I making sense? I just thought it was kind of a random interjection from Alice and I didn't know what she meant by that.

I am listening to it again and got to this point. When Alice says "Edward you have to do it" he says NO! really angry-like.
Hmmmm, could they have been talking about him letting her change? Because he almost seems surprised when Carlisle tells him that it's not too late to suck the venom out right after that.

Excellent catch here, Forcelle! I didn't catch that the first million times I've read or listened to it.

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I also think that Edward's emphatic "NO" is very meaningful. Alice has indicated to him many times that she has seen Bella as a vampire and at this juncture he is still unable to accept that. I do feel that Alice's comment is directly related to Edward being the one to change her, not so much about who removes the venom.

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