Midnight Sun-how will it compare?

edwards_obsession · **Posted:** Sat Jun 21, 2008 7:38 pm

Cordelia wrote:

bellandedwardslullaby wrote:

I never dreamed I would be more anxious for MS than BD. Its dark, and complicated. What I expect from him. I want to see that conflict of control and violence transformed into release and love. Im so pumped for this. I am so up and high for BD, I can't imagine what it will feel like when MS finally comes out. It will be THE BEST!!! And so Dark, I love it. I adore the idea that Rob got to see and read what Steph had completed. Oh wow!

EDWARDS Birthday today!!!
http://twilightmomsforums.freeforums.or ... t9737.html

He did?! Wow! I didn't realize Rob has read as much of MS as is written. Yet another reason to tackle him and hold him hostage...like I need another reason, ha!

I'm not sure exactly what interview it was, but at some point he mentioned that SM let him read MS so that he could get a more accurate idea of Edward. Twilight is so skewed because it is from Bella's perspective that he wanted a better idea of who Edward was. I think it is an MTV interview - it's the one where he says he thinks Edward's not really a great guy, it's just how Bella sees him. I love that!

Shimmerskin · **Posted:** Sat Jun 21, 2008 7:59 pm

http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles ... tory.jhtml

He says he and Catherine Hardwicke are the only two people besides Steph and her editor to have seen the top-secret MS manuscript, and he thought it was 1/2 to 2/3 done at the time. He got to read it at the very beginning of filming and was pleased that so much of what was his personal interpretation of Edward, really was. He did not say (in this interview, at least) that Edward was not a great guy--he said that in TW the "guy really doesn't exist that much." IOW, we don't see his perspective and only guess at it, but in MS we find out a lot more about how Edward is affected by things. RP was able to include those thoughts in his performance, so it's going to be great. I can already tell just from the film snippets we've seen--all the intense emotions ranging through his eyes in a matter of a split-second as he leans in toward Kristen....

It's all going to be great--Rob's MS-inspired performance and MS itself. They'll be like a continuous feedback loop for us who won't know where one stops and the other begins, since we'll be seeing the movie before we read the book. It's going to be an interesting experience!

AllAboutEdward · **Joined:** Sat Apr 05, 2008 5:06 am **Posts:** 1741

Cordelia wrote:

I'm usually not a fan of prequels, but I would love one for Edward! To read about his struggle coming to terms with his new identity as a vampire, pretending he survived the Spanish Flu so that he can claim his parent's home and belongings, helping Esme adapt to life as a vampire and soon after deciding to go out on his own, and how he returns to Carlisle and Esme determined never to kill another human. And to see pre-Bella Edward so that we get an even better understanding of how much she has changed him for the better. Couldn't SM just tack on 20 extra chapters to the beginning of MS with all of this in it? That's not asking too much, is it?

I think the thought of a prequel has so many possibilities! Not only more Edward- and who wouldn't want that, but we would get to see so much of the backstory of the other characters too- since Edward was the first Carlisle changed, and the rest came after.

Oh Cordelia, this is the best idea I've heard since I learned Stepenie was going to publish Edwards POV!

Let's get Stephenie on the phone and tell her how much we want this.
Take a break from her vampires? What's she thinking?!?!?

Shimmerskin · **Posted:** Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:23 pm

I love the idea, too. One thing I would hope to find out in such a prequel is why Esme's record is worse than Rosalie's.

Did she come close to killing a human, and Edward saved her from her mistake, and that's another reason they're so close?

Or did she actually kill a human or humans even knowing it was against everything a Cullen stood for? And she can relate to Edward because he has done the same thing?

I want to know why Rosalie thinks she's better than Esme! I don't think Esme hunted down and murdered five men, torturing one (hey, he deserved it), and killing two additional "collateral damage" victims, as well. I want to know what Edward thought of Rosalie's vengeance at the time, if he viewed the innocents' deaths as justified in the larger picture of bringing five villains to justice, or if by coldly exacting revenge she was worse than a newborn hotly out of control for blood.

Okay. I need this prequel.

edwards_obsession · **Posted:** Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:35 pm

Shimmerskin wrote:

http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1585516/story.jhtml

He says he and Catherine Hardwicke are the only two people besides Steph and her editor to have seen the top-secret MS manuscript, and he thought it was 1/2 to 2/3 done at the time. He got to read it at the very beginning of filming and was pleased that so much of what was his personal interpretation of Edward, really was. He did not say (in this interview, at least) that Edward was not a great guy--he said that in TW the "guy really doesn't exist that much." IOW, we don't see his perspective and only guess at it, but in MS we find out a lot more about how Edward is affected by things. RP was able to include those thoughts in his performance, so it's going to be great. I can already tell just from the film snippets we've seen--all the intense emotions ranging through his eyes in a matter of a split-second as he leans in toward Kristen....

It's all going to be great--Rob's MS-inspired performance and MS itself. They'll be like a continuous feedback loop for us who won't know where one stops and the other begins, since we'll be seeing the movie before we read the book. It's going to be an interesting experience!

which video was it where he said that Edward wasn't that great of a guy? I know for sure i've seen it, but sometimes the interviews seem to run together in my head

InnamorataDiTwilight · **Posted:** Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:00 pm

Edwards_Obsession, here's the link you're looking for in which Rob talks about MS and his interpretation of Edward.

http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/6 ... art_2.html

Shimmerskin · **Posted:** Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:09 pm

InnamorataDiTwilight wrote:

Edwards_Obsession, here's the link you're looking for in which Rob talks about MS and his interpretation of Edward.

http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/6 ... art_2.html

Thank you, that was kind of you.

He's talking a lot about how Edward sees himself (in MS)--how selfish, how unworthy--and then goes on to make the comment about Edward being "not a great guy" or only being great in Bella's view. What I get from this is Rob saying Edward is telling us in MS that he's not that great of a guy in his estimation of himself.

I think you could also interpret the comment to mean that Rob himself thinks Edward is not a great guy, but in the full context of his remarks that's not the impression I came away with.

edwards_obsession · **Posted:** Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:08 pm

That's interesting - i've never considered it like that before. In the interview, I thought he pretty much alluded to the fact that it was the way he was taking Edward - he got sort of tongue tied trying to explain that it was his impression of the character. But i think it really goes both ways: Rob doesn't see Edward as a remarkable guy, and Edward doesn't see himself as a remarkable guy. They both have the same impression of Edward.

InnamorataDiTwilight · **Posted:** Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:57 pm

edwards_obsession wrote:

That's interesting - i've never considered it like that before. In the interview, I thought he pretty much alluded to the fact that it was the way he was taking Edward - he got sort of tongue tied trying to explain that it was his impression of the character. But i think it really goes both ways: Rob doesn't see Edward as a remarkable guy, and Edward doesn't see himself as a remarkable guy. They both have the same impression of Edward.

He does also say that it's easier to play Edward that way because it's almost impossible to play a perfect guy. I think the scenes that I have seen so far are excellent. Rob is playing Edward perfectly.

Even in the greenhouse scene, Edward is in such agony. He's probably trying to keep focused as Bella's scent is tempting him. I love Robert's interpretation.

Natashanatasha · **Joined:** Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:25 pm **Posts:** 970

InnamorataDiTwilight wrote:

Edwards_Obsession, here's the link you're looking for in which Rob talks about MS and his interpretation of Edward.

http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/6 ... art_2.html

Thank you so much, I had never seen that clip before. Dang, that boy is cute!
But, anyway I think RP does see Edward that way because Edward sees himself that way.

mamafox · **Posted:** Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:56 am

I think it will be different, but that is what is going to make it unique. Yes, we know the main events, but seeing them from Edward's perspective will be eye opening. A male perspective is always different than a female's. Part of the reason I love this is because it is the perfect way for me to show my students what point of view is. We read the chapter through Bella's eyes and then we read from Edward's perspective- the discussions that happen are fabulous and then they try to do the same thing with their own writing. I model with mine and get their feedback- it is a lot of fun! Stephanie is obviously having fun with it...

Joanne Maria · **Posted:** Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:58 pm

I love all the books, even NM...but MIDNIGHT SUN...EDWARD POV... NOTHING can compare. The only thing I would like better is NM from EDWARD'S POV... he is just soooo intense...I could drown in it!!!

Cordelia · **Posted:** Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:21 pm

Thank you all so much for the interview links! The first time I listened to the G4 interview it bothered me that Rob said Edward wasn't such a great guy. I'm glad I didn't see that interview before the movie clips or I would have been convinced he would play the part wrong, but he seems to have captured Edward perfectly. On reflection, I think it's really great that Rob and Edward share the same opinion of Edward. And I've heard that Rob even feels the same way about Edward's soul. Apparently he and Peter Facinelli have had discussions where Peter tries to convince Rob that Edward does have a soul, but Rob's not fully convinced. I just LOVE that they are so in line with their characters - it is perfect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shimmerskin wrote:

I love the idea, too. One thing I would hope to find out in such a prequel is why Esme's record is worse than Rosalie's.

Did she come close to killing a human, and Edward saved her from her mistake, and that's another reason they're so close?

Or did she actually kill a human or humans even knowing it was against everything a Cullen stood for? And she can relate to Edward because he has done the same thing?

I'm sorry that I can't remember where I read this, but in another thread (maybe the Rosalie thread?) someone posted that SM said all the Cullens except for Carlisle and Rosalie have killed A LOT of people - like 40-50 each, maybe?? And that is why Esme stays home - because she still struggles with her thirst so much.

Argh! I really want that prequel and all the books from Edward's POV!!

Natashanatasha · **Joined:** Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:25 pm **Posts:** 970

Cordelia wrote:

Thank you all so much for the interview links! The first time I listened to the G4 interview it bothered me that Rob said Edward wasn't such a great guy. I'm glad I didn't see that interview before the movie clips or I would have been convinced he would play the part wrong, but he seems to have captured Edward perfectly. On reflection, I think it's really great that Rob and Edward share the same opinion of Edward. And I've heard that Rob even feels the same way about Edward's soul. Apparently he and Peter Facinelli have had discussions where Peter tries to convince Rob that Edward does have a soul, but Rob's not fully convinced. I just LOVE that they are so in line with their characters - it is perfect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shimmerskin wrote:

I love the idea, too. One thing I would hope to find out in such a prequel is why Esme's record is worse than Rosalie's.

Did she come close to killing a human, and Edward saved her from her mistake, and that's another reason they're so close?

Or did she actually kill a human or humans even knowing it was against everything a Cullen stood for? And she can relate to Edward because he has done the same thing?

I'm sorry that I can't remember where I read this, but in another thread (maybe the Rosalie thread?) someone posted that SM said all the Cullens except for Carlisle and Rosalie have killed A LOT of people - like 40-50 each, maybe?? And that is why Esme stays home - because she still struggles with her thirst so much.

Argh! I really want that prequel and all the books from Edward's POV!!

I believe I've read that before too. Let me look. . . .

InnamorataDiTwilight · **Posted:** Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:35 pm

Cordelia wrote:

Thank you all so much for the interview links! The first time I listened to the G4 interview it bothered me that Rob said Edward wasn't such a great guy. I'm glad I didn't see that interview before the movie clips or I would have been convinced he would play the part wrong, but he seems to have captured Edward perfectly. On reflection, I think it's really great that Rob and Edward share the same opinion of Edward. And I've heard that Rob even feels the same way about Edward's soul. Apparently he and Peter Facinelli have had discussions where Peter tries to convince Rob that Edward does have a soul, but Rob's not fully convinced. I just LOVE that they are so in line with their characters - it is perfect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Argh! I really want that prequel and all the books from Edward's POV!!

Cordelia, I'm glad to know that Rob and Peter had such conversations. Sounds like Peter is perfect for Carlisle's part. I really enjoyed that interview--actually all the interviews where Rob voices his opinion on playing Edward. Always interesting. Wonder why Rob isn't convinced about Edward having a soul. Wonder what he read in MS!

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