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whitford-kiwi-girl
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Genetic experiementing. That Valentine would do anything to have control. And to have the most powerful Shadowhunters by his side would have been the icing on his plan. But he didn't plan on the fact that babies turn into TEENAGERS!!!!! And they don't usually listen and do what they are told. FUBAR!!!

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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Basing this off the theory that WARNING SPOILER- don't read if your haven't read CofA Jace is the Inquisitors grandchild- Valentine found the purest blood shadow hunters and partnered them up- creating almost pure Angel blooded children, giving them powers unlike any other.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pixie wrote:
Basing this off the theory that WARNING SPOILER- don't read if your haven't read CofA Jace is the Inquisitors grandchild- Valentine found the purest blood shadow hunters and partnered them up- creating almost pure Angel blooded children, giving them powers unlike any other.


So then do you think they are the children of Stephen and his second wife? I can see that perhaps Jace is but how would Clary have ended up in Jocelyn's body?

One theory I have is that they are children who have been "prophiesed" about and that Valentine (if that is who the faerie Queen was referring to) made sure that they were (maybe getting into too much "Willow" territory) the "chosen ones". Isn't there something like that is almost all mythical fantasy stories like these?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lollylew wrote:

So then do you think they are the children of Stephen and his second wife? I can see that perhaps Jace is but how would Clary have ended up in Jocelyn's body?

One theory I have is that they are children who have been "prophiesed" about and that Valentine (if that is who the faerie Queen was referring to) made sure that they were (maybe getting into too much "Willow" territory) the "chosen ones". Isn't there something like that is almost all mythical fantasy stories like these?



Clary would be Valentines child, and Jace would be Stephens. Valentine had his army, but he was also match making couples to produce powerful offspring.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

City of Ashes Spoiler Alert!!!


I don't think Valentine did anything to Clary. It's my understanding that he didn't really even know she existed...right? I mean on page 167 of CofA, the Queen doesn't actually say that Clary was part of the experiment. She only tells Jace to ask his father about his blood.

So I think that Jace is really Michael Wayland's son. I think that Valentine actually did kill his own son as it mentions in CofB, but took Michael Wayland's as his own. Maybe that's who's blood it is.

oooooooooooooooh. Maybe Valentine is like Simon. He really is a vampire, but he's also able to be out in the sunlight like Simon by taking in shadowhunter blood like Simon had done. So maybe Jace is like 1/4 vampire so he has even that extra strength from them. Although that doesn't sound like much of an experiment...especially since Valentine doesn't like downlworlders that much.

Yeah, that doesn't sound too right...
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CofA spoiler alert

Did y'all notice the white-haired shadow hunter woman, when they were on the boat, seemed to want to tell Jace something? I think she knew who he really is. . .

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BeautifulDisaster wrote:
CofA spoiler alert

Did y'all notice the white-haired shadow hunter woman, when they were on the boat, seemed to want to tell Jace something? I think she knew who he really is. . .


I think so, too.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CofA spoiler alert!!!!

ok, this is what I think....Clary's mom had hidden that cup that is one of the mortal instruments. so we know that it was present in their family. what if valentine used it on the children when they were babies somehow and it made them into super shadowhunters? i think it's possible that he tried it with someone else's child first (jace) before he would experiment on his own child.


oooooooh! or what is the 3rd mortal instrument? do we know anything about it? maybe that has something to do with it????

off topic, but what is RAA? i keep seeing it on people's signatures.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pixie wrote:
Basing this off the theory that WARNING SPOILER- don't read if your haven't read CofA Jace is the Inquisitors grandchild- Valentine found the purest blood shadow hunters and partnered them up- creating almost pure Angel blooded children, giving them powers unlike any other.



That is what I was thinking.

They both have the star scar on there shoulders that mean something???
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SPOILER ALERT

LeahClearwater wrote:
City of Ashes Spoiler Alert!!!


I don't think Valentine did anything to Clary. It's my understanding that he didn't really even know she existed...right? I mean on page 167 of CofA, the Queen doesn't actually say that Clary was part of the experiment. She only tells Jace to ask his father about his blood.

So I think that Jace is really Michael Wayland's son. I think that Valentine actually did kill his own son as it mentions in CofB, but took Michael Wayland's as his own. Maybe that's who's blood it is.

oooooooooooooooh. Maybe Valentine is like Simon. He really is a vampire, but he's also able to be out in the sunlight like Simon by taking in shadowhunter blood like Simon had done. So maybe Jace is like 1/4 vampire so he has even that extra strength from them. Although that doesn't sound like much of an experiment...especially since Valentine doesn't like downlworlders that much.

Yeah, that doesn't sound too right...


I agree with most of this. I don't think Val did anything directly to Clary, her special powers came from her mom so any influence on her special powers may have been made by Val experimenting on Jocelyn. He seemed honestly surprised at first when he realized who Clary was. I think Jace is possibly the son of Stephen and his 2nd wife who supposedly committed suicide. I say supposedly, because it just hit me that with the way Val is he could very easily have taken her, done his little experiments on her and the fetus, then killed her and made it look like a suicide. Of course this would also work into my dreams that Clary and Jace are not brother/sister and still have a chance to ride off into the moonlight on the flying motorcycle. lol

This waiting til MARCH is killing me. I just hope the cookies keep coming. LOL

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pixie wrote:
Basing this off the theory that WARNING SPOILER- don't read if your haven't read CofA Jace is the Inquisitors grandchild- Valentine found the purest blood shadow hunters and partnered them up- creating almost pure Angel blooded children, giving them powers unlike any other.


That sounds logical... I agree to this!

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